My thoughts were in response to this commentary on the original post:
[By "The Americanist"] Psst.... "pro-choice" simply means the woman gets to decide. It doesn't mean women in comfortable shoes who think they're pagan goddesses. It doesn't mean sex without consequences. It doesn't mean that men are pigs -- nor paragons. It simply means that SHE gets to decide. Not the government. Not ... you guys. She does.
So long as the baby is inside her body -- and it is HER body -- the civic issue is: her body, her choice.
The less pro-life folks admit that as a simple fact, somehow found in the Consttution and upheld by the Supremes for 31 years, and continue t preclude its centrality to the argument (as the bishop did by excluding that most women actually CHOOSE to give birth), the more you alienate the very folks you want to persuade.
Here's what I posted:
And a little later, in a discussion about the term "pro-choice":[The Americanist said:] "So long as the baby is inside her body -- and it is HER body -- the civic issue is: her body, her choice.
There, straight out, is the arrogant fallacy.
My money, sitting on deposit in Joe's bank, is not Joe's money but mine. He is responsible to me for his stewardship. The owner of a beating heart inside me with a gene map different from my own is not me, and that being is not mine to dispose of. He or she is being held in a trust account for which stewardship I am responsible.
Accepting this is part of being a grown up."
"A civilized society sometimes, when necessary, restricts the right to make particular choices when it is in the interest of society as a whole or those of its members not in a position to otherwise protect themselves. The use of "right to choose" when applied to whether or not to abort is a euphemistic label designed to eliminate the word "abortion" from discussion of the topic and should be acknowledged as such. "
In a nutshell, that's what I think.
Debbie, if you believe that life does not begin at fertilization, how is it that a fertilized egg can be removed from the biological mother, placed in a surrogate mother, and continue to grow a fetus genetically identical to the fertilized egg in the original mother?